Okay, so I'm still very new to this hobby but I did a ton of research before trying any places (this site has been invaluable for that). I've been to a couple of AMPs in Vegas but I've found a place and a girl that I like quite a bit and I've been going there exclusively for a month or so. I'm not going to name any names but she gives a great massage and every time I get more service than the last visit. Tipping is always after the fact, seems in line with the average according to reviews on here, and I never feel pressured to tip more in the least. She isn't the youngest or the hottest but there is some wonderful chemistry between the two of us and that makes the whole experience much more pleasurable in my opinion.
The thing is, she speaks very little English and I think she understands even less. All our conversations are basically one way. It wouldn't be too much of a problem but she's always trying to tell me something or other. Until yesterday I would have said that most of it boiled down to 'Make sure you always ask for me when you come here' .
So anyway, I'm in the middle of a GREAT session with her yesterday when she holds her hand up to her ear in the universal symbol for a telephone and whispers 'You call me later, okay?'.
Um... okay... sounds good but, you know I don't exactly have your phone number, right?
We finish up and after some hugs and kisses she leads me out and whispers again to call her. At no point did she offer to give me a phone number!
Now, I'm no dummy. I don't think she's looking for a date or wants to run away with me. I'm guessing she wants to set up something privately to avoid having to pay money to the house. If it meant less cost for me, I'd be all for it. I'm not sure how to proceed at this point. I will probably be back in a week or so, should I try and remind her of it and hope she understands what I'm talking about? Help me out! What's going on here?
Yeah, she probably wants to see you professionally outside the spa....which can be great because you get superior service. But never assume. I have a girl in So Cal that is officially my fuck buddy and friend.....I don't pay, it's GF sex, and I foot the bill for movies and dinner. She quit the spa and is going to school right now. I think she likes the set- up because I come and see her about every 45 days or so, so there is no pressure on either of us. But generally speaking, when they want you to call, they want to bypass the house.
As for the number....just ask her! Say, "number" and point to a piece of paper while making the phone gesture with your hand.
As Stroker Ace says and everybody else is probably thinking as well, just ask for her # dude.
Personally I've often called right after I leave the MP so she has my # as well and this has let them instigate things when they've wanted. It's worked probably 2-3 times out of 10 or so where the girl called me first and if I'm interested in the girl enough to get her #, then I'm going to call her for the reasons stated above anyway. Don't be shy, she said to call her for a reason.
She may just mean for you to call the spa and make an appointment with her which would explain why she didn't give a number. Just because they can't communicate in English certainly doesn't mean they're too stupid to give a phone number if they want you to call them. Regardless, take everyone's good advice and ask for her number. Any time I find a girl that I like I will ask for a phone number after the second or third visit. On occasion it has led to extracurricular activities but mainly it helps to keep in touch when they rotate out you can call to find out when they're coming back. It's also pretty cool when they call you saying they miss you and want to see you. I know it really means that business is slow but what the hell. Another bonus, "honey that was Bob Smith from the office that just called, he needs some help with an important project. It should only take about an hour"
Thank god for cell phones! You wouldn't want that call getting picked up by the wrong person! Anyway, I don't think it was to make an appointment. It didn't have that feel to it at all and I always go there very early in the mornings so it's never been a problem seeing her.
Thanks for the advice guys, I will get it next time for sure. It gives me an excuse to go back sooner, like I need one! I'm glad to hear this occasionally works out.
Sheiky, looks like clarity is going to cost you another trip to see her. That could be a good thing. :-)
Just ask her! Use simple broken English, hand jestures, pull out your phone and help her add her number. All of them usually know and can read 1,2,3, et al.
Possibly, she just wants you to call and make an appointment with her and nothing outside the spa. Heck, I don't know! Good luck with it. Share your results and expereinces with us, please.
I agree with all of the above and if you really like her and things are good outside the AMP then you can invest in a English-Chinese translator for about $200.00, easy to use and comes in very handy.
One thing you can do if you have a iPhone (not sure if Android has it) down load a free App called "Google Translate" you can translate complete sentences from English to Chinese or Korean ,or Vietnamese and all other major languages its verbal as well as written instantly , very handy in a parlor.
I met a fine Asian chick a few years ago in SC and visited her spa several times. She told me she was leaving so we exchanged phone numbers. Since that time she's been in Jacksonville at a couple of different spas. I see her about once a month in the spa and every once in awhile do a TO with an overnight at a hotel. Those times are really GREAT! She's delicious!!
My point is, if you really like the girl give her your phone # on a small piece of paper then point to her and hold her hand on the paper with your pen in her fingers and say "Your Number?" Have an extra piece of paper to copy her #. You will most likely wind up with the same experience I did...a glorious creature to nail when your horns grow too long.
Lets see, Bob Smith is about 5' 1" maybe 100 lbs with perfect natural B's, gorgeous spinner. Usually goes by the name Mimi. I would also highly recommend John Kramer, Steve Kowalski or Tom Sheehan. Tom is especially horny in the morning so it's best to go see him early.
Exactly get the phone # that's a given. Once you have the # and you are with her in or out of the parlor, and you ever need to communicate with her that's when the App will come it handy. Of course you may not want to communicate much depending on the girl.
Android phones have it as well, use it all the time. I even text them in English and translate it into Chinese and send it to them. They get a big kick out of it. And its all free.
I'll put a "Yea" in the vote. There are several advantages of seeing a true provider outside a spa. The best advantage would be non-rushed service, getting to know her and the future could be even better. I saw a ebony provider(which I've seen a couple of times) off of Redbook and we spent most of Christmas Eve together. Went for 4 rounds in 3 hours, watched a movie together, gave her a gift/present and she only charged me for an hour. Also it cuts out the middle man(House Fee). LV can be expensive depending on what you want but a FS route can run you between 2-3. As far as understanding her, just be patient. If she likes to talk, take it slow. If not then move onto business.
I think I have a very good relationship with my primary provider; but, we have been strictly incall. If I understood her correctly, via hand jestures and broken English, she does not drive. How would I get her to do outcall, especially if it is to be discrete, not allowing her co-workers and boss(es) to know?
If I give her my phone number and she calls me, I don't think we could communicate effectively enough to accomplish anything. Years ago, I recall my most fun was with the ladies who were fairly fluent in English; I also was reasonably coherent in their language (Thai) when I lived and worked in thier country. Guess I will need to take Korean lessons soon.
Heh yeah, Android phones do have it, I downloaded it specifically for that reason. I like how you can have the text spoken aloud or you can have it blown up to screen size for easy reading. I guess you just have to trust that the translation is accurate and try to keep the words and phrasing simple? I'm going to try it out next time. Like somebody else said, finding out if she drives and has a car would be very good information to have.
Here's another question though since it sounds like some of you guys have experience with this. Like I said, it's hard enough communicating with her in person when you can rely on hand gestures and all of that. How in the hell do you hold a phone conversation with somebody when you don't share a common language? I'm thinking texting might be easier?
Yes definitely, at least for any detailed conversations texting is better. Don't try to use google to translate into her language however, it's horribly inaccurate. Just use English she'll figure it out. As bad as it may seem, I'm quite certain she knows English a helluva lot better than you know Chinese, Korean etc.
Well, I ended up going back to the MP this morning. I wasn't planning on going back until at least next week but I figured you guys were right and I really should try and get her number since it would probably save me money in the long run. I paid for half an hour because I figure it won't be as much that way (mistake one since the hour is only $20 more and the tip stays the same, the hour is what I'm used to and seems much less rushed). The massage is great as always and when we get to the flip I try and ask her for her phone number. She seems kind of confused by the question and after some back and forth what I manage to understand from her is that she gets a new cell phone every year and her number changes. She is going to have a new number soon and it seems like she's asking me to wait until she gets the new one. Okay fine and dandy, so why did you tell me to call you?? I'm wondering maybe if she thinks I already have her number? Maybe she's confusing me with somebody else, who knows. Every time I tried to ask about it, she kept saying she would have a new phone soon. I don't think she's trying to jerk me around (so to speak) and I never would have thought to ask for her number in the first place because I realize this is her job not a dating service but she was the one who suggested it to begin with.
I work in the casino industry, I help a lot of employees every day who speak English as a second language and I think I do okay at it even though I only speak English myself. I don't think I've ever had such a hard time communicating with somebody, especially since she really is trying to tell me stuff. She must think I'm a total moron!
The other thing that I realize NOW is that I really should have just written my name and number down beforehand and given it to her during the session. I have no idea why I didn't think of it at the time. All I know is, I've shot my wad (financially speaking) for the next couple of weeks. I'll go back when I have the money to blow and try again. I'm still getting a great session out of it and until the other day that was all I was expecting anyway!
Thanks for the update and further on this, Dude! Been enjoying all the input you've gotten and wondered how it'd play out. There are a few ladies I know who work at AMP's who just simply don't know how to text, so I text them and they call back. Sometimes the conversations peter out [so to speak ] pretty quickly because of language barriers. There are a couple of ladies who've given me their cell #'s in the past just specifically so I would set up the apptmt at the AMP directly with them by calling/texting their cell. But, there are others who once they'd given me their cell, they no longer saw me as a client and instead we became Friends-with-Benefits and they'd have been offended if I ever offered them $ for the TIME we've shared away from the AMP.
When the lady is that limited in her English skills, it can be a barrier to having a phone/text relationship, and even a relationship outside the AMP, that's what my experience is. 1 lady I used to have over for overnights had such limited English it was fairly hilarious at times in private moments of passion... She'd say, "Boom boom first! THEN sleep!" and, "You make water?" wanting to know if I'd popped.
My best method is to have the lady get out her cell and I show her on my phone what my # is and she calls it right then so she has it saved into her phone and I have hers too. Others have just written down their cell on the back of the AMP's business card, but a couple have a book that they keep at the front desk for appointments and they've handed me a pen to write down my hobby name/hobby phone # and it's been kind of entertaining that sometimes they have to look for a page that doesn't already have 3 or 4 other guys' names/#'s.
Thanks again for the update. Seems like she likes you and you have a fun time regardless of the language challenges. Very cool.
This message is edited by Time on Jan 6th 2012 15:49 for reason: Oh, and with ladies I'm developing an ongoing "thang" with, I concur in your assessment - skip the 1/2 hour and always do the hour. They like you, you like them, it's worth the minor added $ outlay, IMHO. ROCK ON!
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I like how you can have the text spoken aloud or you can have it blown up to screen size for easy reading. I guess you just have to trust that the translation is accurate and try to keep the words and phrasing simple? I'm going to try it out next time. Like somebody else said, finding out if she drives and has a car would be very good information to have.
